
Refutation of the Biases:
Debate Between a Muta’a’alim about not testing the people about Innovators!
All Praise is for Allah the Exalted the Most High, and peace and blessing be upon His final and last Messenger, and his family and his companions.
That which follows:
After a brother posted a good reminder Youtube clip: “Do not Test the People by asking them about Innovators “
As what is correct you test the people with the Imams of the Sunnah, and you do not test the people about asking them about the Innovators. But you warn against innovation and its people.
This al-Mut’a’aalim Adam Assad ( Muta’a’alim المتعالم who pretend to have knowledge / falsely educated, they take from the books and audio websites without ahulu ilm {people of knowledge}, and they think they are scholars) speaks ill of the Scholars like Shaykh Salih al Fawzan saying he has mistakes, and ill manners with Shaykh Rabeea if he errors we refute him and he feels you can test the people with innovators. After I was giving a brother sincere advice about seeking knowledge from ahulu ilm and learning the Sunnah from them. This Mutaa’alim can not hold back his tongue.
A debate with Adam Assad after him seeing this clip, and advice, he got upset:
Adam Assad The point is that you have no right to speak against it. A Salafi doesn’t speak against the way of the Salaf.
Islam’s Finest Abu-Abdillah Abdul Lateef and the most dangerous of them and most harmful from what you asked are the zealous and emotional of them who have no knowledge and did not learn it from the hands of ahul ilm, except for confine to books and audios and youtube and websites only, is that they act upon their emotions and zealousness but have no knowledge to back it up except for they heard so and so said this, and read in a book this, or was told by so and so that, but did not learn it from ahul ilm. They do not understand what they read or even how to apply it and when to do so.
Adam Assad Shaykh Salih Fawzaan can be unaware of the Salaf’s position regarding an issue, just as he was unaware regarding whether or not it’s permissible to be happy at the death of an innovator. The likes of Shaykh Salih Fawzaan and Shaykh al-Abbad are excused in such situations because they are Major ‘Ulama known generally for their constant ittiba’ of the Salaf, their Manhaj is also Saleem, they follow the fundamentals of the Salaf so even if they lack or fall short in an issue, their judgement goes back to the fundamentals they are upon and that’s how we judge them (according to their fundamentals) therefore such a situation doesn’t lower their status or weaken their methodology. As for you, your not upon their methodology, since after clearly understanding the way of the Salaf regarding this issue, you have no excuse, it is not permissible for you to hold on to the opinion of Shaykh Salih fawzaan or anyone, even Imam Ahmed, or Ibn Taymiyyah, or Ibn Uthaymeen or Shaykh Rabee and so on. Such Ta’assub to opinions is what Salafiyyah is opposed to in it’s very essence and this is the Ta’assub and hizbiyyah your manifesting. May Allah guide the followers ofMadeenah.com/Baseerah.org Jamee’an.
Responses and Miscellaneous Statements Third Part
By Eminence Shaykh Dr. Salih bin Fawzaan bin Abdillah al Fawzan
May Allah Preserve him Translated by Abul Baraa Muhammad Abdullah bin Earl bin Earl A’l Allister al-Amreeki
At-Tawbuh33 And the guidance: it is the knowledge that is beneficial and the Deen of truth: and its righteous actions. So the Messengersallahu wa alayhi wa salam was sent with knowledge and actions and that knowledge is lifted up with grasping to the scholars, and the people are seized by the ignorant heads so they give verdict (Islamic opinions} without knowledge so they are astray and astray others. Just as the Prophetsallahu wa alayhi wa salam informed us.Knowledge is not obtained except by learning and obtaining it from the Scholars. Allah the Most High said:وَمَا كَانَ الْمُؤْمِنُونَ لِيَنفِرُوا كَافَّةً ۚ فَلَوْلَا نَفَرَ مِن كُلِّ فِرْقَةٍ مِّنْهُمْ طَائِفَةٌ لِّيَتَفَقَّهُوا فِي الدِّينِ وَلِيُنذِرُوا قَوْمَهُمْ إِذَا رَجَعُوا إِلَيْهِمْ لَعَلَّهُمْ يَحْذَرُونَ“And it is not (proper) for the believers to go out to fight (Jihad ) altogether. Of every troop of them, a party only should go forth, that they (who are left behind) may get instructions in (Islamic) religion, and that they may warn their people when they return to them, so that they may beware (of evil).”
At-Tawbah 122So he who takes knowledge from merely books without reading it with the scholars and obtaining its commentary and explanation from them. Knowledge is not obtained from the Mutaalimeen (individuals who pretend to have the knowledge, who have not finish any thing, those who do not take knowledge from the scholars ) those who took their knowledge from pages and they explain it from their thinking and their comprehension. So التعالم at-Taalim ( describing the action of those who pretend to have knowledge) it means make believe knowledge (pretending or claiming to have knowledge), the result is confining oneself upon reading books. And the example of this it is said by him who al-Jahil al-Murakib (beyond ignorant) he who is ignorant and he does not know that he is jahil ignorant rather he thinks of his self as an Alim (scholar some one who understand Islam as a whole). How many are victimized from this path upon the old and current ummah (Islamic Nation) from these ordeals? So the first to graduate the schools of pretending to have knowledge ( taking knowledge without scholars) they are the Khawarij those who denied the companions may Allah be pleased with them and they fought against the companions and they killed Uthman and Ali and Talha and Zubar and other s from the companions (of the Messenger of Allah sallahu wa alayhi wa salam) may Allah be pleased with them.
It continues the bands graduating from this school and coming out of it continuous upon the ummah.And from the event that happens in the Makkah and the events of explosions and scaring those who are secure (not at war, under the protection of the Muslim government ) in our present time. Except for the expanding of this evil misfortune school. Just as that it continues to bring out from this school those who takfeer (deem Muslims disbelievers) or tab’deea (proclaim people as deviant without proper proofs) the Muslims and comes out from it those who give verdicts without knowledge. So they make halaal (lawful) what AllahmakesHaraam (prohibit) or they make haraam what AllahmakesHalaal. SotheIslamic Nation will continue to suffer from the harms of those who abase the scholars and they describe them as being without awareness and understanding reality ( of affairs and peoples lives). And that they are scholars of the government (scholars for dollars) that they are sycophant (sell outs) and the companions of the chairs ( اصحاب كراسي what any person who is responsible for people like President or Minister of any affairs related to government) and other than that. And they flee from obtaining knowledge fromtheUlimaa (scholars). It is obligatory on the nation’s youths beware fromtheseMutaalimeen (those who pretend to have knowledge) and safeguards upon obtaining knowledge from the scholars and returning to them in resolving their problems. So indeed the scholars are the inheritors of the prophets and indeed Allah distinguishes them from other than them with knowledge ( those who are not like them). So He the Most High said:قُلْ هَلْ يَسْتَوِي الَّذِينَ يَعْلَمُونَ وَالَّذِينَ لَا يَعْلَمُونَ ۗ إِنَّمَا يَتَذَكَّرُ أُولُو الْأَلْبَابِ“ Say: “Are those who know equal to those who know not?” It is only men of understanding who will remember (i.e. get a lesson from Allah’s Signs and Verses).”
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Just as it is obligatory the utmost effort to establishes firmly who educates and issuing fatwas, except he is known for knowledge and he knows where he obtained the knowledge.
May Allah give you all success with beneficial knowledge and righteous actions and peace and blessing be upon our prophet Muhammad and his family and his companions.
1. looking for the scholars’ mistakes and hoping for their downfall:








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